On The Phone With Josh

A Pentecostal and a Baptist walk into a seminary... the punchline? A podcast that bridges academic theology and everyday faith. Meet Josh and Josh, your hosts for a podcast that’s all about connecting the dots between theology and real life. Josh from Missouri has twenty years of pastoral experience, trains church leaders through AssociateLeadership.com, and teaches practical theology at Evangel University. Josh from Oregon is a biblical languages enthusiast who’s on his church’s sermon prep team and serves faithfully in his church. Both have their MDivs, a love for deep conversations, and a passion for making theology something you can actually use in your faith journey. Come join the conversation on social media. www.facebook.com/onthephonewithjosh // www.instagram.com/onthephonewithjosh

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3 days ago

Paul’s comments in Romans 13:1-7 are often used by Christians who support the current political leadership to remind everyone that we must obey our governing authorities. It is much harder to discuss this verse when we disagree with the party in power. But what does this verse say about local government or about policing? How can we understand this verse within the broader biblical context? Come join this challenging conversation as we walk through a political and theological minefield searching for a biblically faithful interpretation.
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
McCaulley, Esau. Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope (https://a.co/d/54AfzXV)  

Monday Mar 17, 2025

1 Corinthians 10:13 is often misquoted and misapplied to imply that “God will not give you more than you can handle.” However, this is not even what the text says, let alone what we think it means. As a matter of fact, in this conversation, we explore the corporate meaning of this text and seek to apply it in ways we had not previously considered. Come join us for this conversation and let us know what you think of this verse!
 
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Monday Mar 10, 2025

Many of us have heard this verse used to advocate everything from why we should exercise to why we should not get tattoos. But is that what this verse is trying to say? What is the best way for us to understand that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit? Come listen in as we wrestle through this text, and then let us know your own thoughts on social media.
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Watkin, Christopher. Biblical Critical Theory: How the Bible's Unfolding Story Makes Sense of Modern Life and Culture (https://a.co/d/cdMkTZI)  

Monday Mar 03, 2025

Romans 8:28 is one of the most frequently abused verses in the Bible. It is often used to “comfort” someone who is grieving, yet it seems to have the opposite of the intended effect. What is Paul actually driving out when he says all things work together for the good of those how love God? Come join us for this conversation and then meet us on social media to share your thoughts.
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Mitchell, Margaret. Gone with the Wind (https://a.co/d/cLwnOws)
 
Other Resources Mentioned on the Podcast
Coe, John. “Intentional Spiritual Formation in the Classroom” (https://www.scribd.com/document/800068974/Intentional-SF-in-Classroom-Coe)  

Monday Feb 24, 2025

Paul’s famous passage wrestling with the power of sin has often been understood as a revealing self-description of Paul’s own struggles. Yet, we don’t think that’s what’s really going on here. Listen in as we make our case and then let us know what you think.
 
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Other Podcasts Mentioned on the Podcast 
Disciple Dojo – “Why so many read Romans 7 WRONG (w/ Dr. Joey Dodson)” (https://podcasts.apple.com/se/podcast/why-so-many-read-romans-7-wrong-w-dr-joey-dodson/id1002934837?i=1000658946740&l=en-GB)

Monday Feb 17, 2025

We use this verse ALL the time. It’s on t-shirts, Bible covers, knick-knacks, and even tattooed in ink. But what does it really mean? Is this a personal motivator for accomplishing great things? Or is Paul up to something else when he says that “I can do all things through him who strengthens me”? Listen in on this conversation and then join us on social media to keep the conversation going!
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Gorman, Michael. Cruciformity: Paul’s Narrative Spirituality of the Cross (https://a.co/d/8ekbu45)
Michael, Chester P. and Marie C. Norrisey. Prayer & Temperament: Different Prayer Forms for Different Personality Types (https://a.co/d/1XAL0vU)  

Monday Feb 10, 2025

Can I trust my Bible? With so many translations out there, how can I know which one is the “best”? And how can I figure out which one is “right” when they don’t say the same thing? These questions and more prompt us to dive into the world of Bible translations – what is involved in making them and how we can make better sense of their differences. For this conversation, we welcome special guest, Jon Clemence, who is a fellow Bible translation hobbyist.
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Fee, Gordon D. and Douglas Stuart. How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth (https://a.co/d/2dklmGh)
 
Other Episodes of Our Podcast Referenced in this Episode
E136 – The Stages of Faith (https://pod.fo/e/29d200)    
 
Reaching Jon Clemence
https://cedarpressproofreading.com/ - Proofreading, editing, writing, and graphic design

Monday Feb 03, 2025

We’ve all been told we should read our Bibles, but why exactly? If we come right down to it, are we satisfied with our own answers? What does our track record tell us about our belief in our own answers? Let’s dive into this topic and see if we can find an answer that will actually satisfy us. And after you hear our answer, let us know your thoughts!
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Guidara, Will. Unreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593418573?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_KGE8VSB68EQ4JPW61SFC&skipTwisterOG=1&bestFormat=true&newOGT=1)
Rohr, Richard. The Divine Dance: The Trinity and Your Transformation (https://a.co/d/evvGMyW)  
Sides, Hampton. The Wide, Wide Sea: Imperial Ambition, First Contact and the Fateful Final Voyage of Captain James Cook (https://a.co/d/9g0BHYh)
The 1662 Book of Common Prayer: International Edition (https://www.amazon.com/dp/083084192X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_588Q976RFGX21M09XXDT)
Zizioulas, John. Being as Communion (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0881410292/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_3AR7Y54WX95C4WHNMED3)
 
Other Episodes of Our Podcast Referenced in this Episode
E138 – “Disciples Make Disciples” – Really? (https://pod.fo/e/2a48f2)  

Monday Jan 27, 2025

What is the role of discipleship? Is it just to make other disciples? If not, what role does discipleship and evangelism play in the life of a disciple? Join us as we discuss these ideas and try to bring some clarity out of many terms that often get lumped together. Then come join the conversation to let us know what you’re thinking!
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Coleman, Robert E. The Master Plan of Evangelism (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0800788087?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_AH9X4H0CQ4Q611M8FZ99&skipTwisterOG=1&bestFormat=true&newOGT=1)
Gorman, Michael. Cruciformity: Paul’s Narrative Spirituality of the Cross (https://a.co/d/8ekbu45)
Guidara, Will. Unreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593418573?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_KGE8VSB68EQ4JPW61SFC&skipTwisterOG=1&bestFormat=true&newOGT=1)
Robinson, Steve. Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A: How Faith, Cows, and Chicken Built an Iconic Brand (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400213223?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_D67MWR1QW4S6E3KRJHWW&skipTwisterOG=1&bestFormat=true&newOGT=1)  
Reeves, Rodney. Matthew (The Story of God Bible Commentary) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310327148/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_KCBD4BND491QCKT4H750)
Reeves, Rodney. Spirituality According to John (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830853480/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_DFQ2JHS9NM7M1KQWHN2P)
 
Other Episodes of Our Podcast Referenced in this Episode
E136 – The Stages of Faith (https://pod.fo/e/29d200)
E137 – (de)Construction (https://pod.fo/e/2a1b0f)

E137 – (de)Construction

Monday Jan 20, 2025

Monday Jan 20, 2025

What are we aiming for as we grow in faith? Are we aiming for more certainty or more ambiguity? Are we aiming for better theology or a better relationship? And how do these questions relate to the idea of deconstruction? In this episode we want to start a conversation about what to do when our old answers no longer satisfy us. Tune into this conversation and let it spark one of your own for this all-important topic.
 
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Books Mentioned on the Podcast:
Hagberg, Janet O. and Robert A. Guelich. The Critical Journey, Stages in the Life of Faith (https://a.co/d/6xMuPnW)
St. John of the Cross. Dark Night of the Soul (https://a.co/d/hscogdo)

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Josh and Josh(ua)

Let us begin by saying that we have very few pictures of us together since most of our friendship after college has been on opposite sides of the country. We couldn't be more proud that this is one of the few that we have. 

 

So what do you do when you live on opposite coasts? You talk - a lot. For 20 years we've been talking life, history, theology, Christian living, marriage, and parenting. At the heart of it, we believe friendship is a vehicle for soul formation. So we take it all seriously even if we don't always take ourselves so seriously. Check out Episode 0 for a brief introduction to us and to our show.

 

Our podcast is an invitation for you to join the conversation. Every week we'll delve into a new topic and then open the floor for listeners to join the conversation on social media. www.facebook.com/onthephonewithjosh // www.instagram.com/onthephonewithjosh // www.twitter.com/joshes_t 

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